*3rdRails is a copy* of Aptana RadRails [1] but with a great difference *RadRails is free and open source.*
here is a show down already done
http://tnlessone.wordpress.com/2007/02/28/ruby-rails-ide-comparison-idea-netbeans-radrails/
but there is a great review of netbeans + ruby at
http://lifeonrails.org/2007/8/30/netbeans-the-best-ruby-on-rails-ide
and a good screencast here http://www.netbeans.org/download/flash/jruby_on_rails/jruby_on_rails.html
does no one use notepad anymore?
- it has 3,112k memory footprint
- find AND replace (Ctrl+H)
- Word Wrap
- comprehensive help
- and an about
Hi Cody
Just read the lifeonrails.org article and was very impressed.I must really take a secondlook at netbeans rubyide.
BTW, as a 3rdRail expert user, can 3rdRail do what netbeans rubyide can do ?
Check this for highlighting
http://www.netbeans.org/download/flash/jruby_on_rails/jruby_on_rails.html
/Frank Vilhelmsen
Hi Huw
Can your plugin work in the free VS express ?
Hi Cody
See my next post on code completion...
Hi Cody
Is it morning in the USA ? It;s about 10:15pm Malaysian Time
See my new thread
Code Completion by IDEs - How Complete ?
BTW, I have also posted it on the 3rdRail Beta Forum
Does it have a soft wrap option? I couldn't find it if it does.
Hi Joe
We built a solid professional tool, and we're updating it with new features every 3 months. RadRails has been updated in a loooooong time to my knowledge. I think aptana replaced the rhtml editor with their own html editor, but other than that.
cch: Surprise, surprise,Aptana has just released RadRails Milestone 7 into beta today
John Lane wrote:
I had to change the permissions of /usr/lib/ruby/gems to allow Netbeans to work with Ruby on Rails. This was not necessary for Aptana, which just worked.
This is only if you want to use Netbeans to manager your Gems. If you don't use Netbeans for this and use the normal gem command you don't need to change permissions. There have been discussions about thison the Netbeans dev list. Tor is looking into ways to escalate privileges for the Gems manager if required (using sudo under linux and appropriate methods under other OSes).
Netbeans "dirties" my project directory tree by adding internal files and folders. I don't like this and, in my two hours of playing, I'd say this is my major gripe.
But I am going to use it continuously for a week and see how I get on...
John
I'm loving Netbeans, my only complaint is the code completion isn't as good as I would like. It seems to have trouble suggesting the right stuff to me in some circumstance. Not sure if this is a failing of Netbeans implementation or just the limitations of code completion in dynamic languages like Ruby.
Cheers,
Anthony Richardson
Jon wrote: > *3rdRails is a copy* of Aptana RadRails [1] but with a great > difference *RadRails is free and open source.*
> [1]http://www.radrails.org/download_rails_rdt.php
OK, I know this is flamebait, but as part of the 3rdRail team at CodeGear I have to point out this is utter nonsense. I've never heard anything so absurd.
Well, that was my first impression...
Our approach to providing Rails functionality is totally different. We have several big features that just don't exist in RadRails, our code completion is better and...
I don't what the point of saying something like this is. If you're a fan of RadRails then use it.
No, I'm not a RadRails fan. I simply use free and open source and now I'm using NetBeans 6.0 which has several features that doesn't exist in RadRails and is better to writing code (by now).
Joe Mcglynn wrote:
Anthony Richardson wrote:
I'm loving Netbeans, my only complaint is the code completion isn't as good as I would like. It seems to have trouble suggesting the right stuff to me in some circumstance. Not sure if this is a failing of Netbeans implementation or just the limitations of code completion in dynamic languages like Ruby. Anthony, keep a list of those situations in NB where code completion isn't helping and then try the same thing in 3rdRail. I think you'll be happy with what you see.
If there are code completion situations where we're not better let me know so we can make it better. I have been slack with that. I will make a concerted effort to note these issues so that I can compare.
I must admit I haven't looked at 3rd Rail for a long time (early beta) and even back then it had some great features.
Cheers,
Anthony Richardson
What it doesn't have is a sane download package: it doesn't create a single install directory, but dumps files and directories wherever you happen to open it. And it could certainly use the option to *not* bother downloading things you don't need, like a JRE and MySQL. Installing 3rd-party packages via RPM is also something I wouldn't like to see done to my system.
What it also lacks is anything that tells you, *before* you register and download the /330+MB/ installer, that it won't run on your system, at all, if you happen to be running a 64-bit OS.
Which is certainly not an issue with NetBeans
FWIW,
If you do, I would also love to see the list of issues such that I can
file issues and fix them
http://wiki.netbeans.org/wiki/view/RubyFeedback
-- Tor
Tor Norbye wrote:
I have been slack with that. I will make a concerted effort to note these issues so that I can compare. If you do, I would also love to see the list of issues such that I can file issues and fix them
http://wiki.netbeans.org/wiki/view/RubyFeedback
-- Tor
Of course Tor, that goes without saying.
One thing that has impressed me with the NetBeans development is the speed in which I have had reported defects fixed. In the case of the one serious issue I reported it was fixed within hours and a new build made available... can't ask for much more than that.
Cheers,
Anthony Richardson
Hi Anthony
John Lane wrote: > I had to change the permissions of /usr/lib/ruby/gems to allow Netbeans > to work with Ruby on Rails. This was not necessary for Aptana, which > just worked.
cch: I agree.
This is only if you want to use Netbeans to manager your Gems. If you don't use Netbeans for this and use the normal gem command you don't need to change permissions. There have been discussions about thison the Netbeans dev list. Tor is looking into ways to escalate privileges for the Gems manager if required (using sudo under linux and appropriate methods under other OSes).
> Netbeans "dirties" my project directory tree by adding internal files > and folders. I don't like this and, in my two hours of playing, I'd say > this is my major gripe.
cch: I noticed this when I wa test moving my projects between Aptana Rails, 3rdrail (fieldtest edition) and nbRubyIDE
> But I am going to use it continuously for a week and see how I get on...
> John
I'm loving Netbeans, my only complaint is the code completion isn't as good as I would like. It seems to have trouble suggesting the right stuff to me in some circumstance. Not sure if this is a failing of Netbeans implementation or just the limitations of code completion in dynamic languages like Ruby.
cch: See the "Code Completion - How Complete ?" thread.
CCH wrote:
I'm loving Netbeans, my only complaint is the code completion isn't as good as I would like. It seems to have trouble suggesting the right stuff to me in some circumstance. Not sure if this is a failing of Netbeans implementation or just the limitations of code completion in dynamic languages like Ruby. cch: See the "Code Completion - How Complete ?" thread.
yeah, I'm following that thread as well.
Cheers,
Anthony Richardson
NetBeans 6.0 Beta 1 is the way to go right now. Get the Ruby Edition - light-weight, great code completion, amazing editor.
That's kinda scary... what sort of "messed up"?