One of my common frustrations when setting up a Rails app is that I’ll do “rails new”, set up the application, and then get a little way in before remembering that I either wanted to disable turbolinks, or choose a different database, or whatever the option may be. Obviously you can append the optio…

Great summary, Betsy. I’d like to throw my support behind both an interactive option and a minimal option, as well as better tooling and documentation for adding things you’ve said no to after the fact. While some might think “the list of things installed by default is insane”, it represents my hone…

I have started a draft PR to add support for the new rails command: rails new --minimal What exactly are we going to skip? everything… everything? cc/ @Betsy_Haibel @dhh can someone help make the final call on what exactly is excluded? Here is the PR: https://github.com/rails/rails/pull/39282

@DHH because there are so many ideas going on in this thread, do you think it would be worth making a Basecamp project or similar to coordinate this work? I think the work-to-be coordinated is fast exceeding what a Discourse thread can support.

[image] DHH: as well as better tooling and documentation for adding things you’ve said no to after the fact I’ve got an idea for adding back gems that were opted-out of: [image] Add `rails install` which installs the gem and runs install generator A May Of WTFs Eve…

Bootsnap has no friction. Devs are neutral because its just there and works. For most aspects, a dev would never realize Bootsnap is even there. Spring has frictions. Oh you changed an initializer? You better remember to reset your Spring otherwise things won’t behave the way you expect them too (w…

[image] Maxime_Handfield_Lap: Bootsnap has no friction. Devs are neutral because its just there and works. For most aspects, a dev would never realize Bootsnap is even there. We started this forum in part because that is not true. The ground rules here are that Rails is a big tent. Your exper…

Oh, and also ./bin/rails actionmailer:install along with all the other frameworks you can opt out off with --minimal or --interactive.

Just need a final call on bootsnap, shall we include/exclude? After that I’m going to start tackling interactive (unless someone has started it already) I do have some questions around this though. For a newbie do we want them to add the flag --interactive? For me that does not seem like a nice j…

Let’s exclude bootsnap on --minimal; I think that will be principle-of-least-surprise here. Folks who want bootsnap but not the rest of the big modern Rails grab bag can always add it for themselves later.

A big pain point for me is that rails new doesn’t check its inputs in many cases. In others, it provides less feedback than it could. I’d really like an interactive version to model the full domain of rails new options, and give assistance when it’s obviously needed. The current UX is this way becau…

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DHH (DHH) May 14, 2020, 8:49pm 60

Betsy, I’m happy for us to start kicking off issues/PRs for some of these ideas. There’s a clear go-ahead on --minimal and --interactive

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