El Dorado - an open-source forum in Rails

I'm pleased to announce the first public release of El Dorado: a
full-stack community web application written in Ruby/Rails.

The app features a forum, community event calendar, shared file storage,
and a randomized header image gallery.

It can import content from existing sites running PunBB. The forum is
somewhat modeled on PunBB, and is nearly feature complete.

I've been using this app in production since late July '07. The
setup/administration process still leave something to be desired, but
the end-user functionality is quite well tested.

http://almosteffortless.com/eldorado/

In terms of PunBB features, I don't think the power-user will be fully
satisfied. There not much in the way of user administration tools (post
throttling, ip-banning) and some major features are still not
implemented (subscriptions). However, the basics are pretty solid, and
the regular users of my small forum have been satisfied for a while now.

Please have a look and let me know what you think!

When this gets out of its infancy perhaps it can replace the punbb forum system Rails Forum is running on. I have yet to take a look at the code, and I probably won’t until tomorrow night.

Trevor Turk wrote:

I'm pleased to announce the first public release of El Dorado: a
full-stack community web application written in Ruby/Rails.

I'm quite pleased to announce the release of El Dorado version 0.9.2 -
the "group chat" edition. You can check out the demo, testing, and
support site here:

http://eldorado.almosteffortless.com/

You can read more about this release and download the app here:

http://almosteffortless.com/2008/05/05/el-dorado-092-group-chat-edition/

Feedback very much appreciated!

Thanks,
- Trevor

Dave Lynam wrote:

I get an error when I run ruby script/server b/c
it says that there is no script folder. I am doing something wrong?
Did I download the whole app? thanks for your time, Dave

Perhaps you need to use "ruby script/server" instead, but I'm not sure.
This would be an issue with running Rails apps in general, though, not
just El Dorado. I'd suggest checking out some tutorials for getting
started and I'm sure it'll become clear. If you're not sure where to
start, the Agile Web Dev book should be a good pick:

http://www.pragprog.com/titles/rails3/agile-web-development-with-rails-third-edition

Trevor Turk wrote:

I'm pleased to announce the first public release of El Dorado: a full-stack community web application written in Ruby/Rails.

The app features a forum, community event calendar, shared file storage, and a randomized header image gallery.

It can import content from existing sites running PunBB. The forum is somewhat modeled on PunBB, and is nearly feature complete.

I've been using this app in production since late July '07. The setup/administration process still leave something to be desired, but the end-user functionality is quite well tested.

http://almosteffortless.com/eldorado/

In terms of PunBB features, I don't think the power-user will be fully satisfied. There not much in the way of user administration tools (post throttling, ip-banning) and some major features are still not implemented (subscriptions). However, the basics are pretty solid, and the regular users of my small forum have been satisfied for a while now.

Please have a look and let me know what you think!
  

I know I'm replying to a really old email, but I was wondering how things are going with El Dorado? Are many people using it? Any obvious problems?

I'm looking to integrate something alongside a Radiant website, with the main need being that the 2 should be able to share some sort of user model (not the Radiant Admin UI model). So, I was wondering if people have used it and have some comments to share.

Thanks
Mohit.

Mohit Sindhwani wrote:

I know I'm replying to a really old email, but I was wondering how
things are going with El Dorado? Are many people using it? Any obvious
problems?

I'm looking to integrate something alongside a Radiant website, with the
main need being that the 2 should be able to share some sort of user
model (not the Radiant Admin UI model). So, I was wondering if people
have used it and have some comments to share.

Hi Mohit,

I'm the developer of El Dorado. I can't speak to how many people are
using the app, but I've seen it around a bit. I'm under the impression
that some people have forked the code, or used it for internal projects,
etc as well. The people over at FiveRuns just posted a automatic
installation that features El Dorado as well:

http://eldoradoapp.com/topics/249

I've been happily using the app for a few sites that are active, and
I've been continuing to add new features from time to time. I don't
think there are any major bugs or issues, but of course there are still
areas that could be improved and such. I've certainly been maintaining
and using the app, though, so I know that it's useable.

I'd love to see El Dorado integrated into Radiant, so please do let me
know if you'll be working on that. Even if you won't be putting it back
out into the open-source community, it would be fun to see the product.

I should note that there are some other good alternatives that may be
easier to integrate into an existing Rails app. I don't have extensive
experience with them, but here are the ones I'm aware of:

http://adva-cms.org/
http://www.toghq.com/
http://www.communityengine.org/

Of course, I've built El Dorado to work in a way that I like, and I
think it's a terrific app. Please do let me know if you decide to use it
for anything - this is the whole reason that it's fun to work on
open-source projects :slight_smile:

- Trevor

Hi Trevor

Thanks for the long message. I do appreciate the reply. I've been following the project (in terms of watching the mailing list posts to the Rails mailing list) and haven't seen much about it. That either means it works really well or people aren't using it or people are going elsewhere for support! I noticed yesterday that the El Dorado Forum itself is quite active... so, I'm now going to start tracking it.

It looks nice, seems to have many features that I want - now, I need to suck it down, install it and play with it. Was just looking for a "heads up - beware!" message before starting out. Given that there have been none yet, it's probably a good idea to go ahead with it :slight_smile:

As you're probably well aware, Beast (and its variants) are most commonly cited as options for integrating into regular apps... so, I was just doing a check before I start to evaluate.

The remaining answers are inline.

Trevor Turk wrote:

I'm the developer of El Dorado. I can't speak to how many people are using the app, but I've seen it around a bit. I'm under the impression that some people have forked the code, or used it for internal projects, etc as well. The people over at FiveRuns just posted a automatic installation that features El Dorado as well:

http://eldoradoapp.com/topics/249
  
Ya, I noticed this from the site - that's cool :slight_smile:

I've been happily using the app for a few sites that are active, and I've been continuing to add new features from time to time. I don't think there are any major bugs or issues, but of course there are still areas that could be improved and such. I've certainly been maintaining and using the app, though, so I know that it's useable.
  
Good enough for me! It gives me enough confidence to go ahead and start evaluating it for our needs. I do like some of the stuff that's catered for small companies - and I think that will see us use El Dorado for more than just 1 thing in the near future.

I'd love to see El Dorado integrated into Radiant, so please do let me know if you'll be working on that. Even if you won't be putting it back out into the open-source community, it would be fun to see the product.
  
I would be careful of claiming "integrate" just yet.

[1] The most likely scenario currently is that Radiant runs on http://www.example.org/ and El Dorado runs on http://bbs.example.org/

[2] The second most important thing is likely to be a need to make sure that somehow Radiant and El Dorado can share the same user authentication method (for Radiant, this would NOT be the admin login to post content)

[3] This would most likely be followed by an integration where I add a sidebar in Radiant (so, I'd need to add Radius tags) that will allow us to copy across the 10 most recent posts (subject, title, author, etc.) to the Radiant site's home page (or any other page for that matter). I've done this before using Yabb2 - that site is currently offline, otherwise I'd post you a link. So, what I'd need from El Dorado is a not too complex page of 'most recent posts' and then parse that in on the Radiant side.

[4] I'd like to then see if it's possible to add simple things like tags that allow you to search for BBS posts related to the current page in the forum. So, I'm thinking that you could do <r:eldorado:search_msg q='form_helper' /> and this would find you some posts related to 'form_helper' and if it that comes back in a good easy to parse format, I'd like to show that on the Radiant page.

[5] Finally (and this is a big problem), I'd like to see if it's possible to use the 'home page' of the user inside El Dorado for adding more things - e.g., if he could bookmark something in the Radiant site, it could show up inside this user home page area.

What do you think?

I should note that there are some other good alternatives that may be easier to integrate into an existing Rails app. I don't have extensive experience with them, but here are the ones I'm aware of:

http://adva-cms.org/
http://www.toghq.com/
http://www.communityengine.org/
  
I'm aware of this, but I have spent quite a bit of time with Radiant and the site that I have this in mind for is already starting out on Radiant. Additionally, I'm helping to coordinate a project called 'Summer Reboot' that is helping to create documentation for Radiant, so for now, that's the chosen one: http://wiki.radiantcms.org/Summer_Reboot

Of course, I've built El Dorado to work in a way that I like, and I think it's a terrific app. Please do let me know if you decide to use it for anything - this is the whole reason that it's fun to work on open-source projects :slight_smile:
  
Of course, I will. I think the main features that I'm looking for are:
1. Ease-of-use
2. Ease-of-integration (e.g. the simple pages that allow me to integrate with Radiant)
3. Spam control/ management - this is really troublesome naturally! I have this working quite well on the Mailing Lists that I administer, but it's always a problem on a BBS.

Thanks again Trevor - for building the system and for releasing it for us to use. I fear you're going to hear more from me in the coming weeks as I start to go down this path :slight_smile:

Cheers,
Mohit.
10/22/2008 | 12:20 PM.

Trevor Turk wrote:

Thanks for your reply, Mohit. It's silly that I forgot to mention Beast, of course. I guess I overlooked it because everybody already knows about it...? Beast is a great app, and a good pick for integration as well, mainly because it's so small and widely used. I referred to Beast a lot when learning Ruby/Rails and working on El Dorado, so I can say from experience that it's a well-written and solid app.
  
Currently, my very short list is Beast and El Dorado!

As for El Dorado and possible Radiant integration of whatever depth, I look forward to any suggestions, requests, or contributions you may have. It's probably easier for me if we pick up the conversation over here:

http://eldoradoapp.com/
  
See you there!

Cheers,
Mohit.
10/23/2008 | 9:30 AM.