ANN: preview of a new, large RoR site

G,

I’ll make a note to steer clear of this site.

The proper way to advertise is to BUY a keyword
from google rather than spamming a list.

The fact that Steve Case is involved does not surprise me.

Spamming a mail-list sounds like something he would
think is a brilliant business move.

If you want to share your code that would be friendly.

} G,
}
} I'll make a note to steer clear of this site.
}
} The proper way to advertise is to BUY a keyword
} from google rather than spamming a list.

This isn't precisely advertising, and certainly not spamming, though it
could be considered viral marketing. I'll point out that numerous other
Rails sites have been announced on this list. I'm not sure why this
announcement in particular is the target of your venom.

I'll also point out that I specifically requested that you not include the
URL in a response to this message, yet you did so anyway. Not cool.

} The fact that Steve Case is involved does not surprise me.
}
} Spamming a mail-list sounds like something he would
} think is a brilliant business move.

First off, I'm not Steve Case. Second, I made the decision to send the
email to the mailing list on my own. Third, I'll repeat that it is
inaccurate to call this spam.

} If you want to share your code that would be friendly.

I'm in favor of sharing what we can, but ultimately I work for a
corporation that, like most other corporations, has a legal department
concerned about intellectual property. What I've had time to document and
I've been comfortable would not upset legal is at redcorundum.blogspot.com
(plus a variety of messages to the ruby-talk list and this list).

On the other hand, unpleasantness like your message reduces my motivation
to push the legal department to allow us to release anything. You make me
care less about the community of which we are both a part. Was that your
intention?

--Greg

} Seems pretty buggy. Got infinite redirect loops and other stuff going
} on. I wasn't able to get access to anything (but I did register).

Was this with Safari, by any chance? There are known issues with redirect
loops on Safari. We'll be nailing down issues with Safari in the coming
weeks (and at least some of us will pay attention to Opera as well).
Eventually we'll even get to section 508 compliance. The site is, indeed, a
bit buggy, which is why this is a preview announcement, not a release of a
full, ready-for-prime-time site. Nonetheless, I do encourage you to try it
out again in Firefox or IE. (If you got into a redirect loop on one of
those, however, please send me email privately to let me know how; we'll
need to get that fixed ASAP.)

} So, what makes the site "large"? Also, do you have anything to
} contribute besides just "announcing" your site?

The site is large in that there is lots of functionality, lots of pages,
lots of content, lots of moving parts, and an expectation of lots of users.

As for contributions, I've been actively participating on this list and the
ruby-talk list for close to a year, as well as posting some tips at
redcorundum.blogspot.com. Furthermore, a truly large Rails-based site that
can handle huge amounts of traffic, as ours eventually must, is itself a
contribution. Even if you never see a line of code from us, the mere
existence of such a site makes it significantly easier to justify Rails as
a development platform for developers working in an "enterprise" setting.

} -carl
--Greg

Hi,
I see your message as spam, but to each his own...

Even if you never see a line of code from us, the mere
existence of such a site makes it significantly easier to justify Rails as
a development platform for developers working in an "enterprise" setting.

Er, I fail to see the logic in this statement. First of all, what
makes your social networking site about medical facilities anywhere
remotely near "enterprise"?

Secondly, while it's good to see another Rails site, I don't see how
this one single site is going to justify Rails any more than any other
serious site like Strongspace or Shopify. Is it just because Steve
Case is involved? Because everyone knows that he is a titan in the
tech industry... *shrug*

--Jeremy

Just because this is a corporate rails site, someone complains. If
37signals posted about their new app here, no one would complain saying
"buy a keyword" - and they're funded by Jeff Bezos.

From the looks of it, revolution is a modulized app with way over 100

controllers on the public face.

I'm a bit curious as to the business model, but I figure I can ask
people I know who work there and get a better answer than I'd get in a
web forum.

Well,

I like the fact that it is a corporate site.

I want, however, to see the app [or pieces] sitting in rubyforge.

I want to download it and look at the code.

If I want to see a really kewl corporate website,
I have thousands [millions?] to choose from.

If Gregory wants to release some code and say that
it runs his corporate site, I’d consider that a service
to the community.

Discussion about biz models is a gray area.

I like the fact that Gregory defended himself and pointed out
some of his contributions.

Steve Case?
He’s a dork.
Unless he wants to hire me.
Then… He’s a tech-titan-revolutionary-genius.

37signals?
I see evidence of their doings in the Rails test-cases.
They pass muster.

…Peter

How is this announcement spam? The original post was a bit strange,
with the "important note" about not quoting a url posted to a public
list. Yet its definitely not spam.

Countless people have announced their new rails projects to the list,
many of which are completely closed source. As Rails is still so
young, I think its exciting to see all sorts of real world projects
getting launched - from the tiny 'guy in a garage' app to huge things
like Revolution is trying.

If this message is spam, then there are about 20 other announcements
sent to the list monthly that should be called out.

- Rob

If it is completely closed source,
how do we know it runs on rails?

Peter Smith
GoodJobFastCar@gmail.com
http://GoodJobFastCar.com

Okay this is getting ridiculous, and I don't even care about
Revolution one way or the other.

Okay this is getting ridiculous, and I don't even care about
Revolution one way or the other.

I agree.... And people thought that the Revolution post was spam...What
about the frivolous follow-on posts that have NOTHING to do with
Rails.....

If only I had a better Spam filter....