table relations and record creation

I have a situation where I have three models, Album, Artists and
class Album < ActiveRecord::Base
  belongs_to :song

class Artist < ActiveRecord::Base
  belongs_to :song

class Song < ActiveRecord::Base
  belongs_to :artist

So, an album can have songs that have artists.

The problem is that on the Album create form, the user is allowed to
enter all three values. So, the user may enter an existing album that
has a new song by a new artist. Or they have enter a new album that
has an existing song by an existing artist.

I can't figure out how to manage this create in the controller. So,
far I have:
def create
    @artist = Artist.find_or_create_by_name(params[:artists][:name])

    @song = Song.find_by_name(params[:songs][:name])
    if @song.nil?
          @song = => params[:songs][:name], :artist_id
          if !
            flash[:error] = "Couldn't create song"
                  redirect_to :action => 'new'

    @album =
    @album.item_id =
    @album.song_id =
      flash[:notice] = 'Album was successfully created.'
      redirect_to :action => 'show', :id =>
      render :action => 'new'

This seems to work, but it feels kludgy and I'm not sure if there is
another, more Rails appropriate way to do it. Any suggestions?

uhm your code is a bit confusing ...

1) where does @item come from? it's not created in the "create"
action... some before filter? what is it?
2) you say users can enter an existing album, but you always create a
new one ? and doesn't it get a name or something?
3) how are your associations set up?

while because of the above, i'm not sure what you exactly want or
need, i was in the mood to type some stuff out as i like associations
problems. If it doesn't suit your needs exactly maybe you can get some
hints out of it:

First the associations, i guess how you have (or should have) set them
up, due to above unclarities:

lass Artist < ActiveRecord::Base
  has_many :songs
  has_many :albums, :through => :songs

class Song < ActiveRecord::Base
  belongs_to :artist
  has_many :album_appearances
  has_many :albums, :through => :album_appearances

class AlbumAppearances < ActiveRecord::Base
  belongs_to :album
  belongs_to :song

class Album < ActiveRecord::Base
  has_many :songs
  has_many :artists, :through => :songs
so the association works like this


That does help. I didn't know about the :through and I didn't think to
use an association table. Thanks for the help.

Glad i could help.

One more thing:

the "has many :albums" in the Artist class won't work i guess, it
slipped in there accidentally. :wink:
The rest should be fine though.