How can I use the same model/pojo as both type ActiveRecord and non-ActiveRecord. Doesn't seem dry to make two identical type objects.

I understand I can just define a class without extending ActiveReord::Base, but what if I want to use the model object sometimes without having the data persist. For example...

Let's say I have an "AutoManufacturer" object it might have name=Mercedes,etc. But AutoManufacturer could contain a collection of "Automobile" objects, (class=CLS, model="CLS350, numberOfDoors=4"). Maybe your db isn't the one storing ALL the Automobile objects, you might only want to store 'favorite automobiles' but you still want to collect all the Automobile information (class, model, etc) when you record a favorite.

So now what if I go to my DB and get my "AutoManufacturer" objects and for each AutoManufacturer I query some webservice to return a list of Automobiles and I want to then display on a page the AutoManufacturers and a collection of the Automobile objects I returned from my webservice call. If I have "Automobile" defined as an ActiveRecord type when I do something like....

automobiles = getCarsFromWebservice() automobiles.each do |a|     car = Automobile.new();     car.class= a.class     car.type= a.type     autoManufacturer.autos << car end

every new car created above and added to the autoManufacturer actually creates a new car in the db, In this case all I want is fully populated list of autos in each autoManufacturer object for use to display on the front end, but I don't really want the automobile added to the db at this time. (Maybe after they select some, I'll then query a webservice and populate a real Automobile that I do want to persist in my db.)

Currently I'm having to do something really lame. I'm creating basically identical objects - one a model object and one a simple pojo. It doesn't seem very dry to do it this way though. What's a better approach?

Hi Rick, hope I got it right:

class AutomobileManufacturer < ActiveRecord::Base    has_many :automobiles

   def favorite_automobiles      AutomobileCollection.from_association_collection automobiles    end    def all_automobiles      favorite_automobiles | remote_automobiles    end    def remote_automobiles      AutomobileCollection.from_webservice    end

end

class AutomobileCollection

   def self.from_association_collection(collection)      collection = collection.map { |a| AutomobileItem.from_database a }      new collection    end    def self.from_webservice      # load collection... or take it as argument      collection = collection.map { |a| AutomobileItem.from_webservice
a }      new collection    end

   # generate a hash to simplify intersect    def initialize(collection)      @collection_hash = collection.inject({}) { |hash, item|        hash.merge item.identifier => item      }      @collection = collection    end

   # this could possibly be done with ruby stdlib 'Delegate'    def each(&block)      @collection.each(&block)    end

   # intersect with another automobile collections    def |(other)      new_keys = other.automobiles_hash.keys - @collection_hash.keys      new_collection = @collection +
other.automobiles_hash.values_at(*new_keys)

     self.class.new new_collection    end

   class AutomobileItem

     # two seperate methods because I think the interface for      # webservice automobile and database automobile wont match.

     def self.from_webservice(automobile)        instance = new automobile.manufacturer # ...        instance      end      def self.from_database(automobile)        instance = new automobile.manufacturer # ...        def instance.favor          # nop ...        end        instance      end

     def initialize(manufacturer, *further_attributes)        @attributes_hash = {          # ...        }      end      # generate an unique but compareable identifier      def identifier        "#{ manufacturer } ..."      end      # save the record, or maybe not when boxed automobile was loaded
from db...      def favor        Automobile.create @attributes_hash        # nop        def self.favor; end      end    end

end

To make a subclass of ActiveRecord::Base to something not subclassing
it requires some voodoo magic. If you really interested in this kind
of stuff you should gte yourself involved with the rubiunius project. :wink: Otherwise box them in something that would provide the same interface
for SOAPed objects as for ORMed objects.

This code is fully untested, but I hope you get the idea.

Regards Florian

Thanks for this Florian. I really appreciate the help. I have to admit though being a rails and ruby newbie, I'm a bit confused by it (ok maybe a lot confused.) (I'm a seasoned Java/JEE guy though so I'm not having too much trouble catching on too ruby and rails.)

I've never seen a non ActionRecord object work as being persisted and retrieved. In the case below AutomobileItem is that object that could act as being retrieved from a db or a webservice (and as a collection like you have shown.) I think some of the info that is left out in the comment block in def self.from_database(automobile) I might need to see. Say I wanted to get a single AutomobileItem out of the db by the automoblileID how is it done? I take it's something like setting an AutomobileItem with the id and then passing it to the from_database(automobile) method? I'm just clueless on how that would work? (I probably need to find a document or something online explaining it? I have the Agile Web Development with Rails pdf but I don't think that covers this?)

Also what if just wanted all automobiles.. since I don't have a AutomobileItem.find(:all), what would I call?

Sorry for these probably ignorant questions, it's just a bit difficult for me since almost all the examples I'm finding deal with pure ActiveRecord objects.

(Not that it matters but in real life this isn't working with Automobiles, but rss feeds. I'm currently using Hobo migrations and my models look like:

class RssFeed < ActiveRecord::Base

  fields do     title :string     body :text     authors :string     entry_url :string     timestamps   end

  belongs_to :rss_feed_source

end

class RssFeedSource < ActiveRecord::Base

    fields do       name :string       url :string       timestamps     end

    has_many :rss_feeds

    #used for non persistent feeds     attr_accessor :feeds

    #tried declaring array in def intitialize but must have done it wrong     def add_feed(feed)       @feeds = if @feeds == nil       @feeds << feed     end

end

//see now annoying because I had to create this non persistent object that mimics the RssFeed class! class RssFeedNonpersistent   attr_accessor :title, :body, :authors, :entry_url end